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“Re-Judaized Jesus” by Kevin Geoffrey

I found this article by Kevin Geoffrey and thought it is very good…

http://www.kevingeoffrey.org/2008/05/01/re-judaizing-jesus/

As i have stated over and over, the current obsession by some with returning to all things jewish :

1) doesnt make sense

2) is an affront to the gospel

3) sounds more like the ravings of a step-child looking for security and a place to belong

Is my issue with people of the jewish faith ?…no. My issue is with middle class america “almost christians” who obviously have to much time on there hands and dont like their church or being a christian.

I was born in Australia. My interest in the British empire and British History….is that, an interest. It is not an obsession. I do not call my self a British Australian. When i become a USA citizen , i shall not be an Australian-American. I will be an American. It sort of makes sense. it is sort of logical. It is not over emotional, it is not based upon a deliberate re-interpretation of immigration law.

I will be a citizen, adopted. equal. My past does not define me, but enriches me

Shelah

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Time Magazine recently published an article which implies that a rising number of Christian teachers regard “[Jewish] sources like the Mishnah and Rabbi Akiva as vital to understanding” Yeshua. Surely, reference to this literature among the Hebrew Roots community is common, but according to the aforementioned article, it is also true of at least two Christian leaders.

My hope is that believers who come across factoids like this will not take them to heart, and will instead steer clear of Jewish literature as an avenue for understanding Yeshua. Seeing the Master in His proper historical and cultural context is one thing, but the Talmud and other Jewish writings are ultimately useful and authoritative for one thing only: acquiring an understanding of Judaism—a Judaism which is historically and spiritually hostile to the Messiah Yeshua. Indeed, did not the Master Himself say to the fathers of Rabbinic Judaism, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far away from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’” (Mark 7:7) For all their alleged wisdom and insight, the Rabbis take us on a circuitous journey around and passing by the God of Israel, failing to deliver us into a deeper relationship with and knowledge of Him.

 

I also take stark issue with the idea that Yeshua was “passionate[ly] dedicat[ed] ‘to Jewish ideas of his day’”. The Master Yeshua, though immersed in first century Israeli culture and what Stern calls “thoughtforms of their time” (p. 32, JNT Commentary), surely would not have appropriated the teachings of men and taught them as His own. On the contrary, Yeshua brought not “Jewish ideas” to their fullness, but the Torah and the Prophets (Mt.5:17ff), and if there is any resemblance between the teachings of the Rabbis and that of Yeshua, I contend that it was the Master’s influence on His contemporaries—not the other way around! There is no doubt that restoring the Jewishness of Yeshua is absolutely crucial, but to study Talmud in order to uncover “ideas that he rewove but did not abandon” is misleading at best.

In my personal study of Jewish literature, I have yet to come across a piece of godly, divine wisdom that is unique to those writings. If we want to understand the “New Testament Jesus,” we need to look no further than page one of our Bibles—beginning with the Torah, then on through the whole of Scripture—the only truly authoritative Jewish text. If only my “people of the Book” would forsake their philosophical ways and return to the Torah and the Scriptures!—because as long as we remain confined by the wisdom of men, Salvation will remain ever elusive.

I would like to openly invite anyone to offer up here any piece of Jewish literature that aids in our understanding of Yeshua that cannot be found anywhere in Scripture. I do not make this challenge brashly or with disdain for the texts of Judaism, but only in the confidence that there is no need (and indeed, it may even be counter-productive) to go beyond Scripture in seeking the “Re-Judaized Jesus”.

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Another thought….

1536 Geneva Confession

We are regenerated into a new spiritual nature. That is to say that

the evil desires of our flesh are fortified by grace, so that they rule

us no longer. On the contrary, our will is rendered conformable

to God’s will, to follow in its way and to seek what is pleasing to

him. Therefore we are by him delivered from the servitude of sin,

under whose power we were of ourselves held captive, and by this

deliverance we are made capable and able to do good works and

not otherwise.

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Belittling The Cross - Peter Barnes

At the beginning of the twentieth century many theologians were trying

to present the cross as simply a declaration of God’s love for sinners.

That sounds moving, but it makes no sense. The Scottish theologian

James Denney was too concessive in a number of areas, but he is worth

quoting in this regard:

There is something irrational in saying that the death of Christ is a
great proof of love to the sinful, unless there is shown at the same
time a rational connection between that death and the responsi-
bilities which sin involves, and from which that death delivers.
Perhaps one should beg pardon for using so simple an illustration,
but the point is a vital one, and it is necessary to be clear. If I were
sitting on the end of a pier, on a suitimer day, enjoying the sun-
shine and the air, and some one came along and jumped into the
water and got drowned ‘to prove his love for me’, I should find ‘it
quite unintelligible. I might be much in need of love, but an act in
no rational relation to any of my necessities could not prove it.
But if I had fallen over the pier and were drowning, and someone
sprang into the water, and at the cost of making my peril, or what
but for him would be my fate, his own, saved me from death, then
I should say, ‘Greater love hath no man than this.’ I should say it
intelligibly, because there would be an intelligible relation between
the sacrifice which love made and the necessity from which it
redeemed. Is it making any rash assumption to say that there must
be such an intelligible relation between the death of Christ - the
great act in which His love to sinners is demonstrated - and the
sin of the world for which in His blood He is the propitiation?
I do not think so. Nor have I yet seen any intelligible relation
established between them, except that which is the key to the
whole of New Testament teaching, and which bids us say, as we
look at the Cross, He bore our sins, He died our- death. It is so His
love constrains us.

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I wish I hadn’t missed it….

It was one of those nights…..I wish I had been there…sort of nights….Thomas wasn’t in the upper room and Jesus turned up sort of nights…90 minutes of worship, people repenting, telling God they love him, getting right with each other, kids getting baptized in the Holy Ghost… awesome.

Jason said it was the start of the revival we had been praying for fasting for. He was in Brownsville in the heat of the Pensacola outbreak.

I was in Canada at the Toronto one.

I love this more than all of those…why….local church…we are helping show all those pastors out there who have gotten discouraged and a little jade that God moves in the local church, not through the super star.

That you can plant churches on a supernatural foundation. You don’t have to compromise spirit or truth to start a work.

Did you know that we had a bigger Wednesday night crowd than Sunday night this week? In summer, in Texas, mid-week… for doctrine… teaching on the protevangel of Genesis 3:15.

We had over 80% of our Sunday AM come out - church stats nation wide say 50% is what you can expect and then 30% on Sunday PM - we had 80% last night - for prayer, worship, miracles and a move of the Holy Ghost!

Church are you not excited yet?…Now is about the time you should be!

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Colorado bans the Bible?

This is a bit scary.

If you look at the plane language, you will pay either $300 or 12 months in jail for talking about sex sins of any kind. It says:

outlawing communication that “discriminates” based on “sexual orientation”

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68542

These people here are doing a petition:

http://www.libertyaction.org/292/petition.asp?PID=17734255&NID=1

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The Outpouring at Topeka, Kansas.

In December of 1900, the students had an examination over the subjects of
repentance, conversion, consecration, sanctification, healing, and the soon coming
of the Lord. They had now reached a problem in their studies. What were they to do
with the second chapter of Acts? Mr. Parham had an appointment to hold some services
in Kansas City over the Christmas holidays.

When Charles Parham went to Kansas City and returned to the school on the morning
preceding the New Year's Eve watch night service in the year 1900. At about 10 a.m.
he rang the bell, calling all the students into the chapel to get their report on
the matter at hand. To his astonishment they all had the same story. While different
things occurred when the Pentecostal blessings fell, the indisputable proof on each
occasion was that they spoke with other tongues.

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Horse Pill’s for Bfast…

Horse pill’s for Bfast…



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It is all Brian Parkhill’s fault!!

Brian Parkhill threw out the “I look awesome you can too” challenge at Kickboxing on Monday….



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God is doing a cool thing…

Church was awesome again Sunday….the response from people about the message as really neat



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How to pray - Norman Vincent Peale

1. Set aside a few minutes every day. Do not say anything.
Simply practice thinking about God. This will make your
mind spiritually receptive.

2. Then pray orally, using simple, natural words. Tell God
anything that is on your mind. Do not think you must use
stereotyped pious phrases. Talk to God in your own
language. He understands it.

3. Pray as you go about the business of the day, on the
subway or bus or at your desk. Utilize minute prayers by
closing your eyes to shut out the world and concentrating
briefly on God’s presence. The more you do this every day
the nearer you will feel God’s presence.

4. Do not always ask when you pray, but instead affirm that
God’s blessings are being given, and spend most of your
prayers giving thanks.

5. Pray with the belief that sincere prayers can reach out and
surround your loved ones with God’s love and protection.

6. Never use a negative thought in prayer. Only positive
thoughts get results.

7. Always express willingness to accept God’s will. Ask for
what you want, but be willing to take what God gives you. It
may be better than what you ask for.

8. Practice the attitude of putting everything in God’s hands.
Ask for the ability to do your best and to leave the results
confidently to God.

9. Pray for people you do not like or who have mistreated
you. Resentment is blockade number one of spiritual power.

10. Make a list of people for whom to pray. The more you
pray for other people, especially those not connected with
you, the more prayer results will come back to you.

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